80,000 hours is the typical length of time you will spend working - so career choice is important.
80,000 hours is also the name of a non-profit, founded by the effective altruists Will MacAskill and Benjamin Todd.
Effective altruism is a movement that aims to maximise the benefits of charitable giving. To this end, it has coined strategies like ‘earning to give’, whereby a person goes into a high paying career for the purposes of giving most of their wealth to highly effective charities. The most high profile proponent of this is Sam Bankman-Fried, the crypto CEO whose net worth is estimated at 11 billion.
I am persuaded by many effective altruism arguments, so I was intrigued to come across their view on medical careers, in which they advise against a career in medicine.
I will make the case for smart young people, who want to maximise their benefit to the world, pursuing a career in medicine.
The case against
80,000 hours states that a doctor has modest direct impact - they can only treat the patient in front of them. I think this is a fair point for the majority of medical doctors, but it obviously doesn’t apply to branches of medicine like public health, virology, microbiology, or medical research.
They state that the marginal benefits of doctors in the developed world is small - we are treating the healthiest people, with least medical need.
Furthermore the ‘social determinants of health’ such as sanitation, education and socioeconomic status are more important than medical intervention.
(Of course it would be remiss not to point out that a key leader of this idea and chair of the WHO’s Commission on Social Determinants of Health, Michael Marmot is himself a medical doctor.)
Another mark against is the competitiveness to get into medical school. This oversubscription means that if one person decided against medicine, there would be someone else right behind, ready to take their place.
They argue that doctors have a limited influence on public policy and limited scope to change careers.
Overall, they recommend young people considering medicine instead go for other fields that may be higher earning, have greater direct impact or better advocacy opportunities.
These arguments are reasonable, particularly with regard to the day-to-day work of most doctors. But the enormous opportunities medicine offers, have been overlooked.
On a more empirical basis, we should also consider the historical successes of medical doctors, as well as the future potential of medical research.
Historical perspectives
Rise in life expectancy and reduction in morbidity over the past hundred years have been great achievements of our time.
What has driven this? According to Our World in Data, better sanitation, vaccinations, antibiotics and publicly funded healthcare. Many key people behind these improvements were doctors, some of whom I’d like to introduce below.
Sanitation, infection, vaccines
John Snow was a physician, regarded as the founder of epidemiology. He is known for shutting down a water pump that was the source of a cholera outbreak in Soho in 1854. His work led to improvements in the water waste system of London which was adopted by cities across the world.
Robert Koch later discovered the vibrio that causes cholera. He was a German physician and microbiologist, the founder of germ theory, who provided a scientific basis to public health.
The discovery of the first antibiotic, penicillin, was by a Scottish doctor named Alexander Fleming. The arrival of antibiotics was incredibly effective in the treatment of infectious disease, previously a major cause of mortality.
The British surgeon, Joseph Lister, pioneered the use of aseptic surgical technique. This greatly reduced post-operative infections, making surgery much safer.
The world’s first vaccine, against smallpox, was created by another British doctor, Edward Jenner. Ultimately this led to the only eradication of a human disease, achieved in 1977. A childhood disease close to eradication is polio, thanks to a vaccine created by Jonas Salk an American virologist (a type of doctor).
Smoking
Smoking is the second leading risk factor for death globally, behind only high blood pressure. Thankfully, there has been a steady reduction in smokers. And who first proved the link between cigarettes and cancer? Richard Doll, a British doctor and epidemiologist (alongside the statistician Austin Bradford Hill).
Insulin
The use of insulin for diabetes is credited by Holden Karnofsky as a great philanthropic success. The pancreatic glands that secrete insulin were discovered by a German medical student, Paul Langerhans. Numerous other doctors were involved in its development as a treatment, most notably the Canadian, Frederick Banting who shared the 1923 Nobel prize in medicine.
Cervical smears
Another of Holden’s success stories is the development of the cervical smear or ‘pap test’. It is an investigation to detect the earliest stage of cervical cancer and is named after Georgios Papanikolaou, a Greek doctor.
Covid-19
A major focus area for effective altruism is pandemic preparedness. We recently had a test run in the form of Covid-19. Many doctors influenced pandemic response, from Chris Witty and Patrick Valance in the UK to Anthony Fauci in the USA.
A great source of success was the quick development of effective vaccines. The first to be approved was Pfizer–BioNTech, developed by two Turkish doctors Uğur Şahin and Özlem Türeci.
Hot on its heals was the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine. Two of the leaders of that development (alongside Sarah Gilbert) were Andrew Pollard and Adrian Hill (both doctors). Â
Based on past experience, vaccines for future pandemics are highly likely to come from doctors.
Neuroscience
Another focus of effective altruism is in the mitigation of AI risk. I’m not aware of many doctors working directly on AI but the adjacent field of neuroscience has many leading doctors, specifically psychiatrists. Indeed, the discoverer of the neuron and the so-called father of neuroscience was Santiago Ramón y Cajal, a Spanish doctor.
In 2016, semantic scholar found that the two most influential neuroscientists of the modern era were Karl Friston and Ray Dolan - both psychiatrists at UCL.
Other influential neuroscientists include the Nobel-prize winning Eric Kandel, and the developer of optogenetics Karl Deisseroth (again, two psychiatrists).
More than providing a better understanding of the human brain (and by extension intelligence), neuroscience should eventually lead to better treatments for mental illnesses - a major source of global morbidity.
Conclusion
Throughout history, doctors have consistently punched above our collective weight when it comes to discoveries and achievements that benefit humanity.
From infectious disease to public health, a remarkable number of contributions to increased life expectancy come from the medical profession.
What’s more, future innovation in preventing pandemics is likely to come from doctors. Whether doctors will reduce AI risk is less certain but there may be benefits from the many leading neuroscientists who trained in medicine.
The 80,000 hours medical careers advice focusses too much on the day-to-day work of a typical doctor and concludes there were more beneficial career paths.
However, it doesn’t give enough weight to the extensive opportunities to engage in public health, microbiology, medical technology and neuroscience, or the proven track record of achievement.
Of course, the vast majority of doctors, won’t change the world but will still have incredibly satisfying careers helping others.
Thanks for the thoughtful comment.
I don’t think you’re correct that these are separate fields. Virology, microbiology and public health are branches of medicine and (in the UK anyway) are jobs done or led by medical doctors. Likewise, neuroscientists like Karl Deisseroth still actively work in clinical psychiatry. Medical research tends to be led by people who have medical degrees, I don’t consider that a separate field either.
Of all the people I mentioned, I’m not aware of anyactively leaving medicine to join a new field - akin to the example you gave of physicists moving into computer science.
I think progress is driven by people who are exceptionally talented rather than those who are average. If you are exceptionally talented, medicine provides an excellent opportunity to change the world (as per the examples I gave). I’d be interested to hear of a degree that offers better opportunities. But even average/mediocre physicians do a lot of good which I suspect is better than a mediocre graduate in say economics.
In terms of opportunity cost, in the UK medicine is a 5 year undergraduate degree so I don’t think this is a big cost compared to other degrees. This is a pretty good time investment with the opportunity to do great things for the exceptionally talented and for the average graduate provides a rewarding, well remunerated career with positive impact on the world.
With all due respect, you're conflating pursuing a medical career with many other related but ultimately distinct professions. Like yes all the people you've mentioned were initially physicians and made big contributions, but that's not really a good argument that one should become a doctor initially just so they can eventually contribute to related but ultimately separate fields that aren't medicine like neuroscience and public health. In their contributions, they were working as neuroscientists, medical researchers or public health officers. Not denying that being a physician can be a fulfilling career on a personal level and that's totally valid and I respect that but that doesn't really change the facts around its impact.
If you're trying to make an argument on the grounds of accumulating career capital and whatever, I'm with you on that one and so is 80k cause yeah if you're young, probably focus on building career capital so people will take you seriously and when the time comes, being a doctor is a good way to show that you're a competent, respected person. But like, is it really the most sensible option to spend 6+ years of your life on medical school and residency for this purpose? Opportunity cost? If you think it's a particularly good for you or some other people personally fair enough! That's valid and I respect that.
Could domain knowledge from practicing medicine be potentially helpful in some of these pursuits? Yeah probably, but why would it be more helpful than other fields say bringing new perspectives from, say automated manufacturing, to the vaccine development space. Wouldn't that be more unusual and likely to result in novel ideas than another doctor considering that they are the obvious choice of external expert to have in the room?
Counterexample: Should one study Physics at the postgraduate level and become a Research Physicist for a few years to prove their technical aptitude because they eventually want to go into software engineering roles in tech? Seems like a very roundabout path without very many benefits over just straight up studying CS at the undergraduate level and doing that right away, generally speaking. I've heard arguments physics people on average are very good at AI alignment research, even moreso than CS people in some respects, but like which way does causation flow here?